honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 2:41:04 AM
LeEC: lol. Good point though.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 6:44:34 AM
$19,000,000 spent on studies and no conclusive contamination yet.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:25:17 PM
Well, you know if Big Oil/Gas is screaming, these non-profit are doing something right!
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 3:49:13 AM
drill baby
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:37:29 PM
Interesting.
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:28:27 PM
It would be nice if all studies were required to disclose who provided the funding for the study. It would also be nice if all study funders had to disclose from whom the funding was initially received if the funding entity is not a private person. This would help readers and users of any study in their determination of the validity a study.
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Quick68

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:11:44 PM
All nonprofit Foundations are funded by the taxpayers.
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don10

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:04:41 PM
ok
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libertyut

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Utah
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:04:13 PM
drill baby drill. Don't need to study it.
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1fulltank

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:03:54 PM
Pick a side.
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obimerrill

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:03:41 PM
Pot calling the kettle black...???
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:02:28 PM
Keep the gummint out of it.
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:02:12 PM
“. . . protests from some in the gas drilling industry, who claim there’s bias in the campaigns.”
And there is no bias in ‘studies’ funded by the oil and gas industry? Gimme a break.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:01:53 PM
Are they looking for some profits?
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 9:01:11 PM
I think what all of care about is safety.
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carpenter4u

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:58:52 PM
Is the results one sided
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:55:31 PM
Better that taxpayer money.
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SavALot

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:54:58 PM
oh this isn't really a surprise at all
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:54:14 PM
Someone's got to do it - if the government won't.
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WIWalt

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:54:09 PM
investment
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:47:44 PM
Both sides have obvious opposing views with some variability among the organizations being privately funded to perform the studies. There is some validity to the Shale coalition, claiming the private funding is mostly given to groups naturally opposed to shale oil development due to their concerns. If you criticize the oil co. of bias then you have to consider Environmental concern groups of possible bias also.
The interpretation of data is frequently skewed by personal bias of the observer. All the General public can do is try to weigh the majority of the data from the most unbiased reliable sources, then try & make a correct judgement. You will find the most extensive supposed unbiased scientific studies come to one conclusion only to be reversed 10 or 20 yrs later with other similarly valid studies. Anyone with some age & knowledge can verify this fact.
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PizzaMon

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:47:42 PM
Sounds biased.
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dabbadu

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:44:07 PM
so?
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Ken2OD

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:41:49 PM
There will always be two sides to every issue.
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ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:39:31 PM
Why shouldn't it be?
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jwalkerh

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:38:47 PM
Ok, check it out...
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:38:37 PM
ok
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lucky69

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Austin
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:33:57 PM
funded by non-profits to make money?@?!
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RoadKing95

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:33:14 PM
drz614 wrote; >>remember this when u purchase companies products and when voting. everyone has a spin these days including bloggers.<<
Had you bothered to actually read and comprehend the article you might have seen this snippet "The foundation, which is not affiliated with the company of the same name,"
And for those posting about follow the money and they have an agenda, how about something concrete to say instead of innuendo? Other than trying to protect people, what is it you think they have to gain here? It is more than obvious what Marcellus Shale Coalition has to gain.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:31:45 PM
sure they are
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jem069

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:30:39 PM
Ok
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RBob

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Portland
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:28:59 PM
Someone needs to be doing oversight. Congress sure is not.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:28:39 PM
I think I agree that they shouldn't take sides, they should just want good oversight of the process and permits. It's hard to say whether hydraulic fracturing is the cause, since the gas is ususally far beneath the water table. I'd be more inclined to believe the well casing failed, rather than the gas and water were mixing. Oh, and hydrualic fracturing has been used for over 50 years to stimulate oil and gas wells. If it was such a problem, why didn't we hear about it before?
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:27:01 PM
I don't think there is anything worthwhile commenting. $19 million is a proverbial drop in the bucket
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walkingtall

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:25:29 PM
Gas drilling studies funded by nonprofits and each has an agenda.
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flyfast

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:23:53 PM
so where do they get money
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:19:24 PM
Each has an agenda too
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bra0712

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:16:21 PM
K
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TXryder

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:15:10 PM
you can get gassed and drilled on at the dentist for under $19 mil.
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mcmonsta

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:14:23 PM
isn't there always 2 sides to an argument?
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:14:14 PM
We all get screwed by fracking. When the water is polluted it is all over.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:06:58 PM
private money at work
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saleboss

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:06:27 PM
I think it's great, keep those "frackers" honest!
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Pyrotect

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:04:56 PM
i wouldnt mind hearing more on this.
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bvrbill

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Eugene
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:04:28 PM
All without taxpayer money.
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hcivic

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:02:59 PM
interesting
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tiggerchick

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Washington
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:02:21 PM
ok....
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:02:04 PM
OK
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crmedic

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:01:14 PM
Ok
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splitrman

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:00:41 PM
It's great that non profits are getting involved. To bad the government does'nt think research into possible risks is important.
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